tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post9206420331279085392..comments2023-10-28T03:56:55.493-07:00Comments on Ghost Girl: Let's Be FairBeth Fredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13494316048252190314noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-56583011306322604042011-08-25T12:54:27.000-07:002011-08-25T12:54:27.000-07:00I'm with a small publisher, and I've seen ...I'm with a small publisher, and I've seen awful books on both sides. After reading John Locke's book, and watching bookstores vanish, I think the lines will blur further. One day it might not even matter.AlexJ.http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/112396633371345879363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-82715519830428611322011-08-25T22:58:08.000-07:002011-08-25T22:58:08.000-07:00Newest Follower, here, and part of the campaign. G...Newest Follower, here, and part of the campaign. Glad to have found you! :)Maevehttp://www.bethfred.com/?fcsite=06003876622544581341&fcprofile=04290447835138139490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-71699142207152745762011-08-26T01:19:58.000-07:002011-08-26T01:19:58.000-07:00I suspect that self-publishing is gaining a differ...I suspect that self-publishing is gaining a different reputation and audience with the arrival of Kindle books. I too have read many absolutely awful books published by mainstream publishers who, it would appear, don't seem to care too much what goes inside the cover as long as it has a big name on the outside.<br><br>We're in the same Campaign group and so hope to see you again soon.<br><br>http://rosalindadam.blogspot.comRosalindAdamhttp://www.bethfred.com/?fcsite=06003876622544581341&fcprofile=12062311223612633308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-27299571428149727062011-08-26T02:53:32.000-07:002011-08-26T02:53:32.000-07:00I read both traditionally published and self-publi...I read both traditionally published and self-published books and I've loved and been disappointed by both. You can tell when someone rushed to self-publish or when a traditional publisher was slack on looking for typos. I think it depends on how much time the author and publisher (which may be the same person) put into the book. So, I agree, Beth. People should review both in the same way.khashwayhttp://www.bethfred.com/?fcsite=06003876622544581341&fcprofile=06319286673691838290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-43457555322505230112011-08-26T07:17:20.000-07:002011-08-26T07:17:20.000-07:00I read both. I don't like typos, problems etc....I read both. I don't like typos, problems etc. in either. I think the ebook revolution is making it a lot easier to self-publish and is easing some of the stigma. That said: A book needs to be professionally edited. You just cannot skimp on this. Fellow campaigner.StacyS.Jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09646270238659432058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-82365902749679606732011-08-26T13:49:00.000-07:002011-08-26T13:49:00.000-07:00Great article. I read both traditional and self-pu...Great article. I read both traditional and self-published books. Like others have said, you find good and bad in both. The only reason I might some day consider self publishing my work is my age and the fact that it takes so long for traditionally published books to come out. :)BeverlyStoweMcClurehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02176195451841801819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-33338866060868972012011-08-27T20:14:44.000-07:002011-08-27T20:14:44.000-07:00I like you read mostly traditional books because I...I like you read mostly traditional books because I don't have an e reader or at least not one I can carry around easily. (I do have a program on my laptop for books) But I have read some self-published books as well. I agree there are good and bad on both sides. I read some that I couldn't help but think what the publisher was thinking to spend actual money printing it, and I have read some self-published that I was glad I only spent a couple of dollars on. Then I have also read a couple of self-published books that I wish could get the bigger audiences because they are so good. But to say one is better than the other...<br><br>I am a fellow Campaigner and dropped in to say Hi.<br><br>Pamela JoPamela Johttp://theresjustlifeyaliveit.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-81210070335091101492011-08-29T07:31:33.000-07:002011-08-29T07:31:33.000-07:00Hello, I'm a fellow campaigner dropping by to ...Hello, I'm a fellow campaigner dropping by to check out your blog. I read your post and I think you bring up some interesting points about self-publishing.<br> <br>Self-published books do have a stigma of not being quite as good as traditionally published books, but things are changing. More people are purchasing and reading self-published books today than ever before. <br><br>The traditional publishing world has been around a lot longer than the self-publishing world and like anything new; it’s going to take some time to become fully integrated. <br><br>In any case, I don’t think traditional and self-publishing should be pitted against each other. Like it or not, they are both a part of the industry. <br><br>As far as reviewing goes, I believe you should review all books by the same standards regardless of how they were published. <br><br>I look forward to learning more about you throughout the campaign. :)J.R.http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/107416996063933942037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-58239969867269775722011-08-30T02:47:20.000-07:002011-08-30T02:47:20.000-07:00Very thoughtful post. I absolutely agree that self...Very thoughtful post. I absolutely agree that self-published books should be reviewed with the same criteria as the traditionally published. While I don't write book reviews, I admit that I read self-published books with a more judgmental eye, expecting mistakes. Shame on me! I'm a fellow campaigner and new follower. Looking forward to reading more of your posts!MG Higginshttp://mghiggins.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-5736321998556160692011-08-30T04:32:59.000-07:002011-08-30T04:32:59.000-07:00Amazingly enough, I'm a soon-to-be self-publis...Amazingly enough, I'm a soon-to-be self-published author who is guilty of being (internally, never publicly) critical of other self-pubbed works. The reason primarily is not the writing, but the editing. I can overlook a typo here and there (heck, they even get through on some of the big-name novels), but consistent problems will make me put the book aside even if I generally like the story. I agree with one of the other comments you got: self-published authors cannot skimp on the editing. An author's eyes alone are NOT enough to fix issues. If self-published authors as a whole make sure they are putting forth their very best product & not rushing, than I believe the image/stereotypes will begin to change for all of us.Jessie Harrellhttp://jessie-harrell.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-27807879372396167092011-08-30T05:56:39.000-07:002011-08-30T05:56:39.000-07:00Hi fellow Campaigner, I love your blog, colour and...Hi fellow Campaigner, I love your blog, colour and interesting posts. I am new at this so hope to see you around.paitentdreamerhttp://thepatientdreamer.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-81922020879456490042011-08-30T08:33:51.000-07:002011-08-30T08:33:51.000-07:00Hi Beth, I couldn't agree with you more! There...Hi Beth, I couldn't agree with you more! There are some traditionally pubbed books that are not up to snuff, and there are also some indie books that have not been edited well. Then there are some indies that are truly amazing, and have kept me up at night reading.<br>To say across the board that all indies are second rate is just ignorant!CatherineStinehttp://www.bethfred.com/?fcsite=06003876622544581341&fcprofile=08869516158377223316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-47754332632457924102011-09-03T20:00:29.000-07:002011-09-03T20:00:29.000-07:00Honestly, the fine-tuning editing doesn't real...Honestly, the fine-tuning editing doesn't really matter for the general public. Most people don't know enough about grammar to know if there are errors or not. I'm saying this as someone with a degree in English and editing and teaching experience. Thye mihgt notic teh typos, but people just won't notice, in general, if every comma in the document is in the wrong place. I'm not saying that this excuses a lack of editing; I'm just saying that most people won't, or don't, notice.<br><br>However, the general perception among the general non-reading public is that self-published works are self-published because they couldn't cut it. Part of that perception comes from the publishing industry. They want people to think that. Being self-published, I've run into this perception frequently. It just adds another hurtle, a large hurtle, to success as a self-published author.<br><br>And just to say it, I didn't self-publish because I couldn't have gone the traditional route; I just refuse to play the stupid games and jump through all the hoops that traditional publishers make writers jump through to get published.Andrewhttp://strangepegs.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-9134080145430021052011-09-09T05:04:16.000-07:002011-09-09T05:04:16.000-07:00What an insightful post! You juxtaposed the proble...What an insightful post! You juxtaposed the problems, pluses, unfairness, etc. of traditional and self-published books so perfectly. What a great benefit this post is to the blogging and publishing world. Hats off to you! <br>I'm a fellow campaigner - I'm not in your groups, but I wanted the fun of getting to know more writers. It's so great to meet you!Brenda Sillshttp://brendasills.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-10403330703074766022011-11-02T14:35:47.000-07:002011-11-02T14:35:47.000-07:00Me and this arctile, sitting in a tree, L-E-A-R-N-...Me and this arctile, sitting in a tree, L-E-A-R-N-I-N-G!Reeganhttp://www.yahoo.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-32575303118451057112011-11-02T15:22:51.000-07:002011-11-02T15:22:51.000-07:00Grazi for mkanig it nice and EZ.Grazi for mkanig it nice and EZ.Diggerhttp://www.bing.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-25992165760807947882011-11-02T16:05:28.000-07:002011-11-02T16:05:28.000-07:00What a great rsueorce this text is.What a great rsueorce this text is.Billybobhttp://www.google.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-24713484353182107022011-08-25T09:51:13.000-07:002011-08-25T09:51:13.000-07:00I found this a really interesting post, as I suspe...I found this a really interesting post, as I suspected that self-publishing has a sort of stigma attached to it but have never seen anyone actually come out and say that they heard an editor/agent/what-have-you actually voice an opinion on the matter. <br><br>As you point out, there's a lot of dross out there on both sides of the fence. I also feel that there are at least a few self-published works with good writing but poor editing and/or formatting. <br><br>I'm inclined to think that more weight will always be given to writing which is published by a known entity, just as short stories and poetry published by print journals and magazines are generally thought more of than those which are published only online. I'd like to see that change, but I'm not convinced it will happen anytime soon.Li @FlashFictionhttp://lisavooght.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-58608859203771498702011-08-25T03:17:04.000-07:002011-08-25T03:17:04.000-07:00Hey - fellow Campaigner here - thought I'd sto...Hey - fellow Campaigner here - thought I'd stop by and visit my other group members. You have a lovely blog! See you out there....K.M.Waltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07167022736028223997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-804362225532927635.post-1243127999639142822011-08-25T01:03:11.000-07:002011-08-25T01:03:11.000-07:00Hi, I'm a fellow campaigner and thought I'...Hi, I'm a fellow campaigner and thought I'd check out your blog. I very much like to color theme, and your article on self-pub and critique is really great. The only thing I found slightly annoying are the pink stars my mouse is "losing" on your site. I guess it's something we could quarrel over for years, but as fellow campaigners we shouldn't fight. So I won't.Katharina Gerlachhttp://www.katharinagerlach.comnoreply@blogger.com